Impressions: The Outer Worlds 2

When it comes to The Outer Worlds 2 (TOW2), when compared to the original game, there have been some marked improvements in some areas, and some continued nonsense in others. What follows are my initial impressions after about 12 hours of gameplay, still on the first planet.

Visuals… still pretty good.

One of my gripes from the first game came from what I considered stunted exploration:

Outside of combat, things are so formulaic that I don’t even know why Obsidian bothered with exploration elements at all. There are three ammo types for all guns (light, heavy, energy); there are multiple damage types (physical, corrosive, etc) but they map 1:1 in a cookie-cutter resistance way; 99% of everything you find is either currency, unnecessary food, and more copies of generic guns/armor to break down for generic parts to repair the guns you chosen to use; mods for guns/armor sound important but are again generic nonsense (your melee weapon deals plasma damage now!) that just ticks the customization 101 box. Even the Perks are boring.

I am pleased to report there are now 10 (!) ammunition types! But seriously, there is a much bigger emphasis picking up random pieces of junk to break down into useful materials and then crafting them into other items. I cannot exactly recall if the prior game already had a similar system or not beyond repairing/upgrading, but it certainly feels much better in TOW2. Additionally, there have been several unique “playing cards” sprinkled about that grant permanent buffs when picked up. Overall, it is not on the same level as Fallout whereby you shout in excitement at discovering an Aluminum can amongst a bunch of Tin ones, but it does make general exploration more worth it, with a knock-on effect of making navigating the game world more engaging. The Avowed-style vaulting certainly helps too.

Sadly, one of the things making the world considerably less engaging is the Skill/Perk system.

Not sure if this qualifies as a hot take, but I despise Skills checks in games. “It encourages roleplaying and specialization.” No, it does not. There is nothing more nakedly mechanical and abstract than a Skill check. What is the difference between Speech 3 and Speech 5, from a “roleplaying” perspective?

Sometimes 5 different ways to get to the same place.

To me, roleplaying is all about choices you make. When you defeat the bandits, do you forgive them or do you execute them? Do you accept the quest from the shady merchant, or do you turn them in? Or do you complete the quest, keep the item, then kill the merchant yourself while pinning the death on an innocent bystander? Those are meaningful roleplaying choices. Imagine not even having the option to turn the merchant over to the authorities because you put one too many points into Lockpicking last time you leveled up.

To Obsidian’s credit, TOW2 is not entirely binary in the Skills checks thus far. A stuck door can be opened with Engineering 3 or the Brawny Trait. Special medicine can be synthesized via Medical 4 or just winging it via the Lucky Trait. Sometimes just finding incriminating evidence is enough to trigger additional dialog choices. But there are absolutely single Skill checks in quests or conversations and you either have the number, or you have the deficiency rubbed in your face. Which means if you want to roleplay “someone in an RPG who can talk to people,” you need to hyperfocus on maxing out Speech. That’s 20 points, accrued at two points per level. Since there is a level cap of 30, that means you can max out just 3 total skills (out of 12) with everything else being zero, or perhaps max two with some scattered levels in other things for flavor.

To state the obvious, this is not a fun way to play the game. “Yay, level up and… another 2 points into Speech.” Or, in actuality, just leveling up and not choosing any Skills at all because I don’t feel that I have enough information to even make a meaningful choice. Is Speech 4 good enough for this area of the game? Can I afford to raise Sneak to 2 in order to get past this skill check and break into the building in front of me? Or am I going to immediately regret it the next time an NPC starts talking to me?

Other times it’s two ways. Or one way.

This is a real scenario I encountered: exploring the map, find a befuddled man in front of a locked house. Don’t have Medical 2, so I fruitlessly exhaust the dialog choices with him. I can see items in the house through the window, but there is no way inside as none of the doors are powered. Up the road is a power sub-station that is malfunctioning, presumably the cause of the locked house. The sub-station repair kit is inside a locked building, and you need Sneak 2 or the Nimble trait to squeeze through the vent. On the roof of the building is the malfunctioning panel, which requires Engineering 3 or the Innovative trait or the repair kit mentioned earlier. If you don’t have any of those… fuck you, I guess.

So, anyway, I’m still running around with 2 loose skill points and about to level up again for a total of 4. Could I put two points in Sneak and solve the area? Sure. How many more Sneak checks will I encounter though? This was literally the first one. Conversely, Engineering has come up quite a lot, so I’m more inclined to put points there instead. But I also have to acknowledge that since I know there will be Speech 20 checks in the game, I only get one other max skill (because I put a point into Guns and Observation), and that was originally going to be Hacking and/or Lockpicking.

This is all very fun, I’m having so much fun, can you tell? So much fun I’m seriously considering deleting 10 hours of progress so I can pick different traits – why did I think Witty was going to be useful if I’m not trying to kill everyone I meet? – and bypass some of these dilemmas. Unless, of course, there will be some future dilemmas with different Skills rendering everything moot.

Immediately after this, you can give the chap a grenade and he’ll accidentally blow himself up. Zoinks!

By the way, I understand that there are indeed real people out there who either don’t care about being locked out of content, or who appreciate the “enforced roleplaying” aspect. I want you to know that I see you… and I don’t understand you. In fact, I may actively hate you. For one thing, the “enforcement” mechanism of discrete Skill checks could have stayed inside your roleplaying mind; you can still commit to your Chaotic Neutral space pirate fantasy without Speech 10 checks sprinkled about. Just, you know, pick those dialog choices, shoot empire guards on sight, or whatever. Hell, I’m more fine with a morality bar governing choices, because at least that is based on prior actions made inside the game world rather than the UI. Where is the fun picking answers before you even get to the questions?

Ultimately, if you have designed your game such that players would rather run around with unspent Skill/Perk points lest they miss out, you have failed IMO. Either by not making them exciting enough to want to pick straight away, or by gating too much content behind them.

Other than, well, all that? The Outer Worlds 2 is pretty good thus far. Time will tell how annoying it will continue getting with Skill checks as we get further into the game. My guess is “loads more annoying.”

Posted on November 17, 2025, in Impressions and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 5 Comments.

  1. Well, I don’t want you to hate me… and I can’t say I love skill checks… but that example about the guy with the house you couldn’t get into sounds suspiciously like a gameified example of a real situation we’ve most likely all encountered at some time or another, when we literally did not have the skills we needed to do anything useful in a given situation. Whether that’s something usefully emulated in a game is another question but even as you described it I was thinking “Well, that sounds like something that would actually happen…”

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    • Of course there are infinite variety of real-world examples of not being able to do anything in a given moment. If someone’s windpipe has collapsed, I do not have the medical skill needed to perform a emergency tracheostomy with a pen or whatever. Then again, if I was able to walk around town with “loose Skill points,” I would probably have quite a few saved up to allow me to instantly gain such knowledge should the situation arise.

      Incidentally, in the game I did suddenly become Engineer 3 on the roof, unlocked all the stuff, and got two special keys that will help unlock Legendary item lockboxes. I’m not certain whether its possible to gain enough keys to unlock every lockbox throughout the game without passing those Skill checks. Nor am I certain whether Engineer 3 will ever be particularly useful for anything else past the first planet (as opposed to an Engineer-focused build). But we’ll just have to jump off that bridge when we get to it.

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  2. But seriously, there is a much bigger emphasis picking up random pieces of junk to break down into useful materials and then crafting them into other items. “

    Thanks. That’s pretty much all I needed to know to skip this one. I got so frustrated constantly feeling like I had to check every container and then filter through my inventory to decide what to keep and what to break down.

    Granted I played on Xbox with a controller which probably made doing this more effort than it would be with a keyboard and mouse, but still… at least let us sort our inventory. Did they at least add that?

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    • Yeah, there’s a few different ways to sort your inventory.

      Here’s the big difference though: there is no weapon upgrading or repairing in TOW2. You can add mods to items if there are open slots, but otherwise, if you find a weapon you like, you can just… keep using it. No more complicated math of “should I spend X resources leveling up this gun Y times versus just buying a level Z gun from a vendor and upgrade that instead?” If you like a specific gun, keep using it and scrap/sell all the rest.

      The whole crafting part of the game is an alternative to buying ammo or mods from vendors. I got curious myself, so I started digging into the menus and comparing some things. A generic, unmodded Light Revolver sells for 15 bits. Or you can break it down into x2 Black Powder and x1 Scrap Metal, which could be sold altogether for 17 bits. Suppose you needed Short Round ammo though. You can craft x80 bullets for x9 Black Powder and x8 Scrap Metal (94 bits), or spend 240 bits at the vendor directly buying the same amount. There’s a Trait you can pick at character creation that doubles the amount of ammo (etc) crafted, so the math even more heavily leans towards self-crafting with that. Or maybe you just focus on the Perks and things related to reducing vendor prices instead.

      Overall point being: there is technically inventory stuff, but it’s much more optional than in the first game. At least, thus far anyway. Maybe it gets weird later on?

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