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Vintage Story – Modified
TL;DR: Mods help, fundamental issues remain.
While my Impression post went up on Monday, I actually wrote it few weeks ago. In that time since, I have downloaded the following mods for Vintage Story:
- Primative Survival
- Better Ruins
- A Culinary Artillery / Expanded Foods
- HUD Clock
- XSkills
- Carry On
- Animal Cages
- Prospect Together
As you may imagine from the titles, the mods add a lot of interesting elements to the game. Or at least would, if I was not still gated behind a Copper Saw. But let’s start at the beginning.
Once I had all the mods installed, I decided to go ahead and start a new game. I left most of the settings as the default, although I did increase the chances of surface copper, and also disabled class-specific recipe locks. Upon zone-in, I found a temporally-stable area, built a dirt house, found some clay, and basically got myself back where I was in my prior save within about 2 hours. While sifting some Bony Dirt, I actually got a Copper Hammer Head, which boosted me significantly into the Copper Age… sorta. I still needed to collect copper for a Pickaxe and then some for a Prospecting Pick, which you use as a method to determine what ore is nearby.
I then proceeded to spend literal hours of my limited gaming free time wandering around the map, prospecting stone to determine where copper might be. Now, you can find surface copper nuggets and then mark that area on your map due to the likelihood of there being copper deposits below there. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean you will find any before your Copper Pickaxe loses all its durability just smacking regular stone. No way of repairing tools, by the way.
Fast-forward some more hours, and I actually found a cave that had real copper nodes clearly visible in the walls. Yay! I collected those went back to base and… just stopped playing. I had enough for a Copper Anvil, which is necessary to create the Copper Saw, but I realized (via Wiki) that you need a Bronze Anvil to craft Iron Tools, and that making Bronze is a better use of your copper than making an anvil. After a few attempts at getting some Tin to make Bronze, I gave up. Arguably, I should have just made the goddamn Copper Anvil and then Saw and then seen what was what.
Fundamentally though, I just wasn’t having fun.
What about the mods though? Well, Primitive Survival adds a lot of food options, including the ability to chop meat into jerky, which helps with preserving food in the early-game. There is also some enhanced fishing capabilities that doesn’t rely on literal fish mobs spawning. The extra food stuff from the other mods didn’t really come into play because I didn’t enter the Wood Board Age. Or maybe I was just too dumb to understand the trick behind easier recipes or whatever.
Out of all of them, XSkills had the most promise. Basically, the mod adds character progression to the game, which is absolutely something I feel Vintage Story lacks. The default XP rate is abysmal, but you can boost it via editing some files. One of the skills grants a chance of collecting Resin from chopping trees, which is essentially all I ever really wanted from the game. There seemed to be some neat stuff in there, amongst the more generic +5% X and similar, but I didn’t earn enough XP to reach anything of particular note. I definitely recommend it though.
Weirdly enough, I do sorta still have a vague desire to play Vintage Story. I’m not quite sure if its the equivalent to Stockholm Syndrome, wherein you spend so much time understanding the intricacies of a game that leaving it makes you yearn for it more, or what. It is fun exploring the map and potentially discovering something amazing right around the next bend. The problem is that everything circles back around to an incredibly dull, “realistic” mining simulation and arbitrary gatekeeping. Fighting feels bad, the lack of armor options feels bad, it feels bad when your map doesn’t spawn any goddamn Horsetail which is the only early-game source of healing items.
It is entirely possible the game is simply not built for someone like me. And I guess that is OK. I’m not even sure what changes they could make in future updates to make it more palatable. Maybe a more cohesive early-game where you can make leather without needing Wood Boards, or perhaps more armor options with just Hides? Maybe not needing to already have copper to mine copper?
We shall see.
Back to Frackin’
I have returned from vacation. Pro-tip: don’t go to the beach in early June and expect to get in the ocean or pool. It’s cold. Was seriously considering booking 1 night at a resort just for the indoor pool.
My disappointment with Farworld Pioneers left a Starbound-shaped hole in my heart that I prompted filled with Starbound. Again. More specifically with the Frackin’ Universe (FU) mod reinstalled.
I was pleased to see that the expansive mod had embiggened itself over the last three years, pretty much to the point where everything felt new. Yeah, many of the craftable items are the same as is the general sense of gear progression that comes from mining new ores on new planets to build things that help you mine newer ores on newer planets. But there was a clever implementation of a new Research system that ties it together in a (slightly) coherent package.
All technologies in FU are unlocked by spending Research points to purchase nodes in various categories. The primary way to accumulate Research is… playing the game. Which is a fancy way of saying “passively in real-time,” at the rate of +1/second. A system like this would typically feel stifling, but the innovation here are the modifiers. Play a long session? Bonus +1/second every 60 minutes. Land on a higher-tier world with more dangerous enemies? Bonus +1/second based on the tier. You can also get +1/second by hiring an NPC Researcher to follow you around, by wearing a special armor set, and by hoarding an endgame resource. Plus, there are some consumable rewards that will give you a dollop here and there.
For the most part, Research doesn’t get in your way too much, as certain nodes also require you to craft (or at least own) milestone materials in addition to the purchase price. Indeed, pretty much the only thing the system really changes is the encouragement of building a planet-bound base as your ship always counts as a “tier 1 planet.” And planet-bound bases were really already encouraged by the simple mechanics of buildings needing power that more easily came from solar/wind sources.
Well, I suppose Research also serves as a sanity check on players trying to leapfrog progression by getting lucky on high-tier planets. Before, if you could dodge getting one-shot by hostile fauna, it was sometimes worth landing somewhere long enough to get lucky with chest drops or some endgame ore close to the surface. With the Research system in place, you won’t be able to even smelt any ore you find without spending an appropriate amount. High-tier weapon drops could still make suicide runs worth it though.
Anyway, I’m back to being obsessed with Frackin Universe. For now.
Sometimes it IS that Simple
I had been having an issue in No Man’s Sky where I did not know how to retrieve my prior base. The internet said there should be a quest in my log to fix the issue, but didn’t see it. The internet also said you can find a “base computer” in the wild by going through a very tedious process of scanning planets, moving your ship, scanning again, etc. I eventually abandoned that latter endeavor after a few hours, and wrote the whole thing off as a loss… then found the quest in my log. Base restored.
Of course, the base was mostly broken nonsense, but I at least retrieve my materials. Now begins the long journey in finding a new planet to set down roots on. Or continue using my Freighter, that the devs just gave away for free to everyone at this stage of the story, as a mobile base. Glad I didn’t grind the 50+ million credits that they cost before I left.
I had been having an issue in Fallout 76 where right-click was not letting me look down the scope of the gun. The internet said the issue was with a mod, specifically Better Inventory. I had already deleted that mod and the custom .INI file though. I also uninstalled the whole game and reinstalled, without a fix. Given the 55 GB install size, that was a serious time investment.
After a while, I stumbled upon a Reddit thread mentioning that as part of some update or another, your custom .INI file was copied over to a My Documents subfolder in addition to it existing in the normal game folder. Lo and behold, there it was, complete with a call towards a mod archive that no longer existed. How that specifically and only affected the right-click function of guns, I have no idea, but deleting it resolved the issue.
Both these issues were show-stoppers for me, and would have led to me abandoning the games forever if I had not been so damn stubborn. It remains to be seen whether either game will ultimately be worth my time playing in a “fixed” state, but it’s interesting nonetheless how precarious one’s gaming experiences can be even with “simple” issues. At every stage of troubleshooting, I was reminded of the other dozen or so Good Enough games that work out of the box.
On Mods
As you may as heard, Valve’s grand experiment with paid Skyrim mods debuted and shut down in three business days. At one point the untouchable darlings reddit, both Gabe and Skyrim itself has taken a huge beating in the eyes of the horde; Skyrim went from a 98% positive feedback rating on Steam down to 86%. Gabe confirmed that the number of emails his staff received will cost them literally $1 million to comb through.¹
From my seat up in the peanut gallery, the entire issue of paid mods seemed to be a solution in search of a problem. Was there some crisis in the modding community preventing mods from being developed? Were popular mods being abandoned? What, exactly, was the issue with the status quo?
To be clear, I’m not against people getting paid for their work, in the same way I’m not against, say, religious liberty. At the same time, I don’t think the concept in of itself justifies every means of expressing it. The modding scene was already a healthy ecosystem built upon passion, collaboration, and natural curation. SynCaine points out there are some mods out there more elaborate and fun than the game they’re built upon. Just imagine how many more, better mods would be generated if said people were paid for their work?
Well… err, maybe eventually.
The Skyrim paid mod section was not active for long, but the future cesspit of theft and profiteering was clear to see. Who looked at Steam Greenlight or Early Access and thought, hey, let’s introduce that to the modding community? Under a paid mod paradigm, you literally can’t give your mod away for free, because someone else can and will turn around and try to sell it for cash.
During Gabe’s AMA on reddit, the creator of the Nexus website point-blank asked what Valve was planning on doing in terms of, you know, not single-handedly monopolizing the modding market. Gabe had no real answer. Which is a problem considering paid Steam mods would give even ambivalent modders every economic incentive to pull their mods from Nexus and any other site to exclusively use Steam Workshop. I mean, what, is Nexus and all the other sites supposed to suddenly create their own mod marketplaces?
With the paid mods plan on ice (for the moment), there has been some further crying about how “freeloaders” and “trolls” have won the day. Out of the entire fiasco, that sentiment bothers me the most. Erecting pay-walls around hitherto free content is an erosion of Consumer Surplus, full stop; it doesn’t matter whether modders “should” have been getting paid this entire time. Splintering the modding community into factions with negative incentive to cooperate is an erosion of Consumer Surplus. Maybe we get really well-done, professional mods out of the paid system eventually. But considering you are paying extra for that value, the Consumer Surplus gains may be a wash. In which case you are no better off than before, minus a thriving modding community.
Nevermind about all the bizarre arguments surrounding mods like DotA and Counter-Strike. Would those mods have achieved their meteoric status had they been priced “fairly” at the start? I don’t think anyone believes that that would be the case.
Do modders deserve to be paid for their work? Probably. Do I deserve to be paid for writing posts for the last four years? Feel free to Paypal me as much money you want. But as a consumer/reader, you are under no obligation, moral or ethical, to pay for something someone is giving away for free. And as a consumer/reader, you have every right to complain when your net Consumer Surplus is being reduced in any way. “Freeloaders” and “entitlement” are specious non-arguments, and especially absurd given how we’ll all talking about people who already bought a videogame.
If you want to pay modders, there is nothing stopping you. As in, right now. Go for it. I’m sure their contact information is listed somewhere on the mod page. Just don’t pretend this change was anything less than a fundamental redesign of the entire concept of modding. Or that this particular implementation was at all going to work, logistically or conceptually. In fact, I doubt that it ever does, even when Valve comes back to “iterate” the process later on. And by “work,” I mean generate more value in the aggregate for gamers and (free) modders alike.
¹ As opposed to Support tickets, which no human ever reads.
In An Age 
Steam Mod Supremacy
Jan 2
Posted by Azuriel
It has long been my opinion that Steam being the premier PC gaming storefront is not a problem for consumers. Indeed, I would argue that when Steam had a higher market share years ago, it was even better – more deals, more enhancements, and the same smooth experience. Monopolies are never ideal, but with Valve (and it being a non-public company) we seemed to have lucked into one of those Philosopher-King situations that ended up better than the alternatives.
What I am slowly discovering though, is Steam’s crushing presence in the game mod department.
Project Zomboid recently came out with a new build, and seeing a spate of Youtube clips of it has renewed my interest in the game (after 6ish years). However, a lot of those clips also talked about all of the mods that are still “required” to fix some of the rough edges to the game. Seeing as I had bought the game on GOG all those years ago, I naturally headed over to Nexusmods and… huh. Definitely not the same options available on Steam. Maybe there is just not a lot of updates yet? Went to the official forums to see if mods are listed there, but that was useless. Finally, I started Googling around to see how I could download Steam Workshop mods and use them with GOG. Short answer: don’t bother.
I’m not saying this is an impossible situation. I could probably just, you know, play the game as-is. If I dedicated more time to the endeavor, I could also probably figure out a solution to how to get Steam mods working with my GOG version of the game. For a moment, I did actually consider purchasing Project Zomboid on Steam, “subscribing” to a bunch of the mods to get them to download, copying the files when they show up in my Steam folder, and then refunding the game. Or just take the L and purchase the game on Steam and start using it from there. It’s even on sale at the moment for like $14.
Here’s the thing: it’s incredibly clear to me now that if you EVER suspect you may want to mod a game, you need to buy it on Steam. Do all games have Steam Workshops? No. Are there games in which Nexusmods is the definitive place to be? Yes. But there will never be a situation in which the Steam version of the game is penalized from a modding perspective, whereas the opposite is true.
And that sucks.
Prior to this moment, I preferred having all my games on Steam because it was convenient, and easy to track time played. However, I was not opposed to taking advantage of those Epic Game Store coupons they used to have, or when something only launched on GOG or whatever. Now? I do feel trapped within the ecosystem. Well, “trapped,” with golden handcuffs and all. But I’m starting to realize that perhaps I was only looking at first-order monopoly effects, and blind to the second-order ones.
Of course, the ideal solution here would be for Steam to make it easier to download Steam Workshop mods without having to own the game. Or at least making it more straight-forward.
In the absence of that though… well, full Steam ahead.
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Tags: Epic Game Store, Golden Handcuffs, Mods, Monopoly, Nexus, Steam